Podcast: Create Magazine

What a pleasure to talk with Ekaterina Popova on her podcast with Create Magazine. We explored my town for humor for wellness (working title: Humorville) and why laughing "with" is the key, vs laughing "at" situations and each other. Both of us focus on connection and a sense of intimacy, she as a painter and I as a performer, so enjoy our kindred conversation about being known!

https://archive.createmagazine.com/blog/humor-for-wellness-exploring-performance-art-with-barbara-ann-michaels-jester-of-the-peace-podcast